ARE WE SUBMITTED? INQUIRING MINDS DESERVE TO LEGALISTICALLY KNOW

TOO MUCH IS TOO MUCH
A Senior Multiple Servant Leader office Speaks

Accusation at the Fronts Lines of Ministry and Church Going USA
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(for MY OWN Christian Respect also for ones similarly attacked..

PLUS for as  this Ancient Noahdic Ship Comes more Forward)

Also an ARTICLE Below;

Above: the Very First Church VS Now

Personally, I like, we like MEN, Christian men, non Christian men. And admire them performing in their many duties.

The only kind that we need to address are  (supposed) Christian  subcultures in these United States  which use FALSE RELIGION and accusing FALSE AUTHORITY, and seeming witchcraft OCCULT.

PS Fellas, if none of these shoes fit, then please ignore them!

This is often been for myself, a far off Pharisees, who sees me and presumes something, It is a form of ATTACK and HARRASSMENT  (=’s transaction CORE…we regard the person is our property) authoritarian seeming presumption. I do not that do that, nor do I understand it as it is Shepherding movement, NAR, Apostles in the Gates of the City and big boss nosy busybody.

Plus when they accuse, rumor and target me and many others,it has caused me to know them, their move their fruit, their doctrine and I differ with part of if, for usually it be ONLY out in GOOD OLE PERSON well meaning ministry. And usually spirit filled of certain ilk
I was raised Southern Baptist, where there was NO TALK OF THIS. As my own sr pastor parents, modeled “co-laborers, equally valued partners, ministry, happy fun also romance.”

In hindsight, (only because I have intensely researched this for myself.) I saw the whole entire Christian leader family, on both sides, walk it out Ephesians 5:21 “Mutually submission in the fear of the Lord’ With each dad being the respected head of home and the chain of command if and when a tie in both persons’ opinion ,needed one (which was rare, but there)
All questions about this: creativewisdom1@proton.me

This is a type of MINISTRY AI AND I Interview with Chapt GPT AI
to be objective, yet feel fully free to disagree and if you feel it’s wrong RESPECTFULLY correct: creativewisdom1@proton.me
Apostolic in Function Taveau Asks
Dear Chat, please respond in history
, very first church, Jesus, Paul, Peter, Scripture in Greek or Aramaic the following.
1. Describe Christ church order, in offices, pastors, apostles, fellowships, elders and lay and married couples

Chat GPT AI responds:

Here is a First Church (Book of Acts–era) view

1. CHRIST’S ORIGINAL CHURCH ORDER (FIRST CENTURY)

A. FOUNDATION: JESUS HIMSELF

Jesus Christ did not build a rigid hierarchy, but a relational, Spirit-led body.

Matthew 23:8 (KJV)
“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”

Key Greek words:

  • ἀδελφοί (adelphoi) = brethren, equals in family
  • καθηγητής (kathēgētēs) = master/leader (Christ alone)

Point: Meaning: No “big I’s and little you’s.” All are brethren under Christ.

B. CORE STRUCTURE: ORGANIC, NOT INSTITUTIONAL

The First Church functioned like a living body, not a system. (This also translates:  a Community (see Apostle Paul Ephesians 4)

Acts 2:42 (KJV)
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.”

Greek:

  • κοινωνία (koinōnia) = fellowship, shared life
  • διδαχή (didachē) = teaching

Point: Order = teaching + relationship + shared life + praye

C. LEADERSHIP OFFICES (FUNCTIONS, NOT BIG TITLES)

1. APOSTLES (ἀπόστολοι – apostoloi)

“Sent ones”

Ephesians 4:11 (KJV)
“And he gave some, apostles…”

  • ἀπόστολος = one sent with a mission
  • Not rulers—pioneers and foundation layers

Paul’s pattern:

  • Planted
  • Taught
  • Moved on
  • Did NOT control locally

2. ELDERS (πρεσβύτεροι – presbyteroi)

Acts 14:23 (KJV)
“And when they had ordained them elders in every church…”

  • πρεσβύτερος = mature, seasoned (not just age)
  • Local shepherding maturity, not celebrity authority

3. OVERSEERS / BISHOPS (ἐπίσκοποι – episkopoi)

Acts 20:28 (KJV)
“Take heed… over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers…”

  • ἐπί (epi) = over
  • σκοπέω (skopeō) = to watch carefully

Mature Point: Meaning: watchful care, not domination

4. PASTORS (ποιμένες – poimenes)

Ephesians 4:11 (KJV)
“…pastors and teachers”

  • ποιμήν (poimēn) = shepherd

Point: Feeds, protects, tends—not controls, owns or views them as their turf, property

5. DEACONS (διάκονοι – diakonoi)

Acts 6:3 (KJV)
“Look ye out… seven men… whom we may appoint over this business.”

  • διάκονος = servant, minister

Point: Practical service role—keeps ministry grounded

D. FELLOWSHIP MODEL (NOT “ATTENDANCE MODEL”)

The early church met:

  • House to house
  • Public spaces

Acts 5:42 (KJV)
“And daily in the temple, and in every house, they ceased not to teach…”

Teaching Point:  Church = people in relationship, not buildings or systems.

E. PETER’S VIEW: HUMBLE, NON-DOMINATING LEADERSHIP

Peter the Apostle

1 Peter 5:2–3 (KJV)
“Feed the flock of God… not by constraint… neither as being lords over God’s heritage…”

Greek:

  • κατακυριεύω (katakurieuō) = to dominate, control

Training Point: Direct command: NO CONTROL-STYLE LEADERSHIP

F. PAUL’S VIEW: FUNCTION, NOT STATUS

Paul the Apostle

1 Corinthians 3:5 (KJV)
“Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers…”

  • διάκονοι (diakonoi) = servants

Point: Even apostles = servants, not elites

G. ROLE OF “LAY PEOPLE”

The First Church had no clergy vs. laity divide.

1 Corinthians 12:7 (KJV)
“But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.”

Point: Every believer = participant, not spectator

H. MARRIED COUPLES IN MINISTRY

Example: Priscilla & Aquila

(Acts 18)

  • Ministered together
  • Taught Apollos (a learned man)

Greek note:

  • Their names often listed together = team ministry

Point:Marriage = co-labor, not hierarchy competition

I. OVERALL FIRST CHURCH ORDER

1. Christ is the only Head
(Ephesians 1:22)

2. All believers are brethren (equals)
(Matthew 23:8)

3. Leadership = functions, not ranks

  • Apostles = senders/pioneers
  • Elders = mature guides
  • Overseers = watchers
  • Pastors = shepherds
  • Deacons = servants

4. No domination allowed
(1 Peter 5:3)

5. Church = relational fellowship (koinonia)
(Acts 2:42)

6. Every believer participates
(1 Corinthians 12:7)

7. Marriage can be ministry partnership
(Acts 18)

FINAL PLAIN SUMMARY

Jesus’ church was simple:

  • Jesus is the only Boss
  • Everyone else is family
  • Leaders help—they don’t control
  • Church happens in real relationships
  • Everybody has a part
  • Husbands and wives can serve together

Teaching Point: It was alive, relational, and Spirit-led—not a system.

Pastor Taveau asks Chat GPT AI:
Please discuss the very first church main guidelines, apostolic teaching on church attendance, official membership, being covered, being a church hopper. and related

Chat GPT responds:

Here is a First Church (Book of Acts) examination of your topics—using Jesus, Peter, Paul, with KJV Scripture first, then brief Greek insight, then clear application.

1. WAS “CHURCH ATTENDANCE” A RULE?

Hebrews 10:25 (KJV)
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another…”

Greek

  • ἐπισυναγωγή (episynagōgē) = gathering together, assembling
  • παρακαλέω (parakaleō) = encourage, come alongside

Point: Meaning:
This is relational gathering, not institutional attendance tracking.

First Church Reality

Acts 2:46 (KJV)
“And they, continuing daily… breaking bread from house to house…”

Point: They met:

  • Daily
  • In homes
  • In public spaces

NOT:

  • Once-a-week obligation
  • Attendance roll
  • Building-centered religion

Major Point: Gathering = life-sharing, not rule-keeping (and not micromanaging)

2. WAS THERE “OFFICIAL MEMBERSHIP”?

Acts 2:47 (KJV)
“…the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.”

Greek

  • προστίθημι (prostithemi) = to add, join

Point: Who adds members?
The Lord—not a human system.

No Membership Contracts Found

There is:

  • No sign-up list
  • No membership class
  • No voting registry

Instead:

Romans 12:5 (KJV)
“So we, being many, are one body in Christ…”

Point: Membership = spiritual union, not paperwork

3. WHAT ABOUT “BEING COVERED”?

This modern phrase is not used in the New Testament.

What Scripture actually says:

Ephesians 5:21 (KJV)
“Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.”

Greek

  • ὑποτάσσω (hypotassō) = to arrange under, voluntarily align

Point; Key: mutual submission—not top-down control

Leadership oversight exists—but not domination

1 Peter 5:2–3 (KJV)
“Feed the flock of God…
Neither as being lords over God’s heritage…”

Greek

  • κατακυριεύω (katakurieuō) = to dominate, control

Point: Peter forbids:

  • Heavy control
  • Ownership mentality

Point: “Covering” in Scripture =
care, guidance, relationship—not control or permission systems

4. WERE PEOPLE EXPECTED TO STAY IN ONE LOCAL GROUP?

No command exists saying:

  • “Thou shalt stay in one church”
  • “Leaving is rebellion”

Movement was normal

Acts 8:1 (KJV)
“…they were all scattered abroad…”

Acts 13–20 (Paul’s ministry)
Constant movement between regions

Paul himself moved freely

Paul the Apostle

  • Antioch → Asia Minor → Greece → Rome
  • Worked with different groups

Point: No “you must stay under one leader forever”

5. WHAT ABOUT “CHURCH HOPPING”?

This is a modern label, not a biblical term.

Biblical concern is NOT movement—but instability

Ephesians 4:14 (KJV)
“…tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine…”

Point: Issue = doctrine instability, not location change

Another concern: lack of root

Colossians 2:7 (KJV)
“Rooted and built up in him…”

Point: Rooted in:

  • Christ
  • Truth
    —not a building or personality

Point: So:

  • Moving is NOT condemned
  • Instability and deception ARE warned against

6. HOW DID THE FIRST CHURCH DEFINE BELONGING?

A. Fellowship (κοινωνία – koinonia)

Acts 2:42 (KJV)
“…fellowship…”

Point: Shared life, not attendance

B. Love and relationship

John 13:35 (KJV)
“By this shall all men know… if ye have love one to another.”

C. Participation

1 Corinthians 12:7 (KJV)
“…given to every man to profit withal.”

Point: Everyone functions

7. APOSTOLIC BALANCE (VERY IMPORTANT)

The First Church held TWO truths together:

1. Stay connected and grow

Hebrews 3:13 (KJV)
“Exhort one another daily…”

2. But remain free in Christ

2 Corinthians 3:17 (KJV)
“…where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

Point: No isolation
Point: No control system
TD Point: No ego

8. SIMPLE FIRST-CHURCH GUIDELINES

1. Gather regularly—but relationally
(not forced attendance)

2. Belong to Christ’s body—not an organization

3. Submit mutually—not hierarchically controlled

4. Leadership serves—not rules

5. Movement is allowed—but stay grounded in truth

6. Avoid instability—not mobility

CLEAR SUMMARY

  • Church is people, not a building
  • You gather to grow, not to check a box
  • God adds you—not paperwork
  • Leaders help—they don’t control you
  • You can move—but don’t be unstable
  • Stay close to Jesus and real people

TD’S Points: The First Church was free, connected, and Spirit-led—not managed like a system.

Taveau. asks Chat GPT AI
1. Was (and is) ” fellowshipping with the saints”. an apostolic rule, a law ….or was it left up to the person?

2. Also, after Jesus returned to Heaven in victory, did He set up government authority where there was ONE office minister or ONE KIND of office ministers  who were OVER ALL Of the others? (Meaning: who were set in place to be OVER all of the other many the offices, elders, and lay”

Chat GPT AI replies
Here is a First Church (Acts era) answer—KJV first, then brief Greek/Aramaic insight, then clear conclusions.

1) WAS FELLOWSHIPPING AN APOSTOLIC RULE…OR A CHOICE?

Scripture (KJV)

Acts 2:42
“And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.”

Hebrews 10:25
“Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another…”

1 John 1:7
“But if we walk in the light… we have fellowship one with another…”

Greek insight

  • κοινωνία (koinōnia) = sharing life, partnership, participation
  • ἐπισυναγωγή (episynagōgē) = gathering together
  • περιπατέω (peripateō) = to walk (daily lifestyle)

What this means

Fellowship was:

✔ Expected and normal
✔ Encouraged strongly
✔ Part of spiritual life

BUT—

Note: It was not enforced as a legal rule
Note:  Not tracked as attendance
Note: Not coerced or controlled

My Teaching Point: It was relational obedience, not institutional law.

Jesus’ pattern

Jesus Christ

  • Ate with people
  • Walked with disciples
  • Met crowds and individuals

No attendance system. No membership enforcement.

Conclusion (Part 1)

Fellowshipping with the saints was:

Point: A Spirit-led expectation—not a forced law
Point: A relational lifestyle—not a legal requirement

2) WAS THERE ONE MINISTRY “OVER” ALL OTHERS?

Scripture (KJV)

Matthew 23:8
“…one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.”

Ephesians 1:22
“And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,”

Greek

  • κεφαλή (kephalē) = head
  • Refers to Christ alone

Apostolic structure

Ephesians 4:11 (KJV)
“And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;”

Key truth:

These are functions, not ranks (not grandiose display of title) but office “functions”.

No verse says:

  • Apostle is over prophet
  • Pastor is over all
  • One office rules others

St. Peter’s direct command

Peter the Apostle

1 Peter 5:3 (KJV)
“Neither as being lords over God’s heritage…”

Greek:

  • κατακυριεύω (katakurieuō) = to dominate

Point: Explicit prohibition of hierarchy control

Paul’s correction

Paul the Apostle

1 Corinthians 3:5 (KJV)
“…but ministers by whom ye believed…”

Point:Leaders = servants, not rulers

Conclusion (Part 2)

There was:

* No “top office over all”
* No supreme human authority

✔ Christ alone is Head
✔ All ministries serve side-by-side

3) WERE ELDERS OVER EVERYONE?

Acts 20:28 (KJV)
“…over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers…”

Greek:

  • ἐπίσκοποι (episkopoi) = overseers (watchers)

Meaning:

✔ Local care
✔ Spiritual oversight

BUT—

True Point: Not ownership
True Point: Not total control
True Point: Not universal authority over all believers everywhere

4) WHAT ABOUT “LAY PEOPLE”?

The Bible never creates a clergy vs. laity divide.

1 Corinthians 12:7 (KJV)
“But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man…”

Training Point:  Everyone ministers in some way.

5) WHAT ABOUT WOMEN IN MINISTRY?

Biblical examples

Priscilla

Acts 18:26 (KJV)
“…Priscilla and Aquila… expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.”

Point: She helped teach Apollos (a learned man)

Philip’s daughters

Acts 21:9 (KJV)
“…four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.”

Phoebe

Romans 16:1 (KJV)
“…Phoebe… a servant of the church…”

Greek:

  • διάκονος (diakonos) = minister/servant

Important balance

Paul gives order instructions in certain cultural historical settings (1 Timothy 2), but:

Point: In the wider First Church:

  • Women prayed
  • Prophesied
  • Taught in appropriate settings
  • Served in ministry roles

Conclusion (Part 3)

Women were:

Point: Active in ministry
Point: Recognized as servants, prophets, helpers

NOT:

Point: Canceled, Erased
Point; Silenced in all settings
Point: Treated as less than , as inferior spiritually, as objects, slaves, pieces of property or concubines (as I Samuel 1 Eli and Sons apparently did)

FINAL SIMPLE SUMMARY

Fellowship

  • Expected and encouraged
  • Not forced or tracked
  • or a piece of property, like some now (adds TD)

Authority

  • Christ is the only Head
  • No human office over all others

Leadership

  • Servants, not rulers
  • No domination allowed

Believers

  • All participate
  • No clergy vs. laity system

Women

  • Actively involved
  • Used by God in real ministry

FINAL

  • Christians were supposed to be together—but not forced (it was Philippians 2:12 “each one working out their own salvation” hearing the Lord individuall like a democray
  • No one was the “boss over everyone”—only Jesus
  • Leaders helped—they didn’t control
  • Everybody had a part
  • Women served too

Major Teaching Point:

The First Church was relational, shared, and Spirit-led—not controlled from the top down

PS We’ll do more ins and outs of Christian women ..but later

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